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Hello. I am only 5'2 and very very far away from the ideal archetype women first think of when they think of *male*. Plus I have others issues such as beginning of baldness.
Is there any hope I can find a romance as women usually dont't find me attractive guy?
Are women willing to date a short guy?
MultiQuote#2 Guest_heavenlyreserved_*
Posted 30 November 2005 - 05:14 PM
Yes, its true that most women usually go for the "tall & handsome" type and would probably not initially be attracted to you based on physical appearance because you're "short and balding".
However, the good news is that women don't just look on the outward appearance to judge your attractiveness. They look at your personality and the way you treat them. I know I've met guys before who at first I wasn't attracted to, but as I got to know them and their personality, they just started looking attractive. Yet their physical appearance never changed, just the way I saw them.
Or, have you ever seen a happy couple, where one member of the couple is absolutely gorgeous and the other is not and you wonder "how did that happen?" or "what does he/she see in him/her?". There you have it -- you might not have the physical attributes to be considered conventionally attractive, but you just have to meet the right person. In fact, there are probably women out there, who will look at you and find you physically attractive. For example, some men prefer "fat" women and say they like "women with meat on their bones" --yet that is not the opinion of most men.
I have seen couples where one is what we would consider really fat and the other really thin - yet they make a great couple. Similarly, I have seen couples where one is really tall and the other is really short -- "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
So, please don't give up hope. A good attitude is important. If you feel you're not worthy, then women will pick up on it. Just know that you deserve happiness and that you have a lot to offer.
I wish you the best of luck.
HeavenlyReserved.
However, the good news is that women don't just look on the outward appearance to judge your attractiveness. They look at your personality and the way you treat them. I know I've met guys before who at first I wasn't attracted to, but as I got to know them and their personality, they just started looking attractive. Yet their physical appearance never changed, just the way I saw them.
Or, have you ever seen a happy couple, where one member of the couple is absolutely gorgeous and the other is not and you wonder "how did that happen?" or "what does he/she see in him/her?". There you have it -- you might not have the physical attributes to be considered conventionally attractive, but you just have to meet the right person. In fact, there are probably women out there, who will look at you and find you physically attractive. For example, some men prefer "fat" women and say they like "women with meat on their bones" --yet that is not the opinion of most men.
I have seen couples where one is what we would consider really fat and the other really thin - yet they make a great couple. Similarly, I have seen couples where one is really tall and the other is really short -- "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
So, please don't give up hope. A good attitude is important. If you feel you're not worthy, then women will pick up on it. Just know that you deserve happiness and that you have a lot to offer.
I wish you the best of luck.
HeavenlyReserved.
#3 Guest_vyper_*
Posted 04 February 2006 - 04:03 PM
Well I have a great personality, but I am 37 and still have never had a single date in my entire life. I have alot of lady friends, but they are simply "friends". I am sure I will know when a woman is really attracted to me, but that just hasn`t happened yet.
And women who have "less than perfect" looks are not drawn to short guys. They may date homely guys, but they have to be tall.
I dunno what to say Since you are 5`2, you are on the same boat. If you are lucky enough to be of a different ethnic origin you might start hanging with them.The average asian male is just about 5`4, whereas the average female is about 5ft tall.
Don`t think my life is miserable, it isnt. I have hired out for prostitutes for my physical gratifications. And I have a large network of both men and women friends. Moreover, I am well educated and make a good living. I have 3 dogs on an acreage. It can get trying during the holiday season and valentines day, but for the most part, living alone isnt bad.
I`m not saying you will never that woman. But don`t make dating/relationships your number one priority, otherwise you aare going to be miserable because it is just not going to happen the way you want it. Instead focus on education and furthering your career, and if she comes, she`ll come.......
And women who have "less than perfect" looks are not drawn to short guys. They may date homely guys, but they have to be tall.
I dunno what to say Since you are 5`2, you are on the same boat. If you are lucky enough to be of a different ethnic origin you might start hanging with them.The average asian male is just about 5`4, whereas the average female is about 5ft tall.
Don`t think my life is miserable, it isnt. I have hired out for prostitutes for my physical gratifications. And I have a large network of both men and women friends. Moreover, I am well educated and make a good living. I have 3 dogs on an acreage. It can get trying during the holiday season and valentines day, but for the most part, living alone isnt bad.
I`m not saying you will never that woman. But don`t make dating/relationships your number one priority, otherwise you aare going to be miserable because it is just not going to happen the way you want it. Instead focus on education and furthering your career, and if she comes, she`ll come.......
#4 Guest_vyper_*
Posted 04 February 2006 - 05:14 PM
Heavenly resserved said about a good attitude. Well I`m not sure about that. My friend and colleague tried to set me up with the lady at the front desk. She was average looking and about my height, but she adamently said "no" because I am "too short" . I have talked to her quite a bit in the past, and she loves my style of humor, but she does not like me in a romantic way.
I hear of women who actually want to have a physcally dominant role in relationships.
On those same lines, I have often wondered if there are women who are physically attracted to smaller guys? If you did find such communites like that on the net though, what type of woman would she be? Could she be a dominitrix? Whatever, extremely short guys like us might have a better chance getting a date with women like that than with the rest of the female population.
The question is whether we are willing to give up our traditional role, and that would be hard for me to do.
its true, I am not miserable, but it would be nice to feel loved and maybe start a family.
I hear of women who actually want to have a physcally dominant role in relationships.
On those same lines, I have often wondered if there are women who are physically attracted to smaller guys? If you did find such communites like that on the net though, what type of woman would she be? Could she be a dominitrix? Whatever, extremely short guys like us might have a better chance getting a date with women like that than with the rest of the female population.
The question is whether we are willing to give up our traditional role, and that would be hard for me to do.
its true, I am not miserable, but it would be nice to feel loved and maybe start a family.
#5 Guest_karine_*
Posted 05 February 2006 - 11:30 AM
Hello Bruno.D,
Heigt doesn't make everything.
There are charm, personality, beauty,... too.
The woman will love you, she'll love you for yourself( your mind, your own....) and she won't stop at a physical detail.
I'm sure you're an attractive guy, don't worry!
Kiss!
Heigt doesn't make everything.
There are charm, personality, beauty,... too.
The woman will love you, she'll love you for yourself( your mind, your own....) and she won't stop at a physical detail.
I'm sure you're an attractive guy, don't worry!
Kiss!
#6 Guest_RonJon_*
Posted 12 February 2006 - 06:00 PM
Ok, @ 45 years old and 5'4, 145lbs and damm good looking! LOL… I have some experience to share. I have had on numerous occasions been lead down the friendship path when I thought it was the path to the love garden!
What I have finally realized was being up front with your intentions is the way to go. Of course I agree with heavenlyreserved, you need to be a gentleman (AKA, nice guy) in doing so. I know some people would disagree with the fact it’s a numbers game. No matter whom you are and what you look like… there is someone out there for you.
I.E., don't be a Bench Warmer
Hey, verbiage can be rearranged, lack of a love life is gone with yesterday……. :wink:
What I have finally realized was being up front with your intentions is the way to go. Of course I agree with heavenlyreserved, you need to be a gentleman (AKA, nice guy) in doing so. I know some people would disagree with the fact it’s a numbers game. No matter whom you are and what you look like… there is someone out there for you.
I.E., don't be a Bench Warmer
Hey, verbiage can be rearranged, lack of a love life is gone with yesterday……. :wink:
#7 Guest_Kairon_*
Posted 19 February 2006 - 11:33 AM
Women simply don't feel basic excitment for the short men especially as short as you as they do for the tall and handsome guys.
Attractiveness, don't just apply to facial features. Yet there is many levels of being short.
You are height deficient, as far as women are concerned. It's not about what they think, it's about how people feel about you as a person. So if you were to find a woman you'll most likely have to find a woman of equivalent desirability to men as you have to women.
Attractiveness, don't just apply to facial features. Yet there is many levels of being short.
You are height deficient, as far as women are concerned. It's not about what they think, it's about how people feel about you as a person. So if you were to find a woman you'll most likely have to find a woman of equivalent desirability to men as you have to women.
#8 Guest_Dwayne_*
Posted 17 March 2006 - 06:07 AM
It's not fair, is it. Women of any height can find love. Men of any weight can find love. Even men of any looks can find love. I've seen enough (short) women say "looks don't matter, must be 6'0"+". While unattractive women will equally consider you hideous. But a short, fit man must be subjected to a life of misery and aloneness. And no, it's not as simple as women just don't find short men attractive. Quite a lot of it is to do with social portrayal of short men, as unable to protect women. With being constantly put down. Unable to fight for themselves. Portrayals of short statured men as being large like Danny De Vito or boyish like Michael J. Fox. I've heard my mother even say that short men "look short"; she rejects George W. Bush as tall because she considers him ugly and assigns him the label of "short". I've heard people claim Sean Connery is ugly because "he is short", only for the womans perception to change once she finds out he is (supposably) 6'2". Myths surrounding the associating of **** size with stature, unfounded by scientific research. Women feel `proud' whenever they have a tall man! They boast about it to their friends. It's about that sense of social security. It's like they all of a suddenly feel like they're the `man', capable of inflicting back the emotional cruelty that men have inflicted upon them. It's about control. Once they try to get past their superficiality in other respects, they resort to superficiality in height in order to retain control as independant. Short men are stigmatised by "Napoleon Complex", when from my research short men are less violent. Furthermore, Napoleon was above average height for his time. While (still shorter) geniuses such as Beethoven are portrayed as tall. It's a lot to do with women's own insecurities. No, it's not as simple as she just "doesn't find you attractive" because of your height.
The poster above associated being good looking with being tall. How are looks associated with height? I'm 5'3". I'm not bad looking, but years of depression means my appearance is very neglected and will probably never have a partner. I have a bigger than average height muscular body, if that counts for anything. Probably not. I'd be much happier if women were just more sensitive regarding their height preferences, I have little problem with the preferences themselves--just don't make me have to listen to it. Of course I'm sensitive to it!; try going through your life alone. I'm also tired of hearing women complain "oh my boyfriend is going to be away for 2 weeks, I'm so lonely!". I can feel sympathetic for them, but they are usually not sympathetic for me.
In the end, I don't want to be with someone who doesn't love me in that way and I don't think they should ask that of me. But, I'd like it if women would respect peoples sensitivities, which looks unlikely. I don't think it's right to make anyone of any physical characteristic feel bad about themselves, intentionally or unintentionally. It seems it's excusable when it comes to male height. Women can show off their shallowness and it fully acceptable amongst peers. With men, if they were to speak that way of a woman, immediately they get isolated. Considered insensitive pricks. And so they should.
The poster above associated being good looking with being tall. How are looks associated with height? I'm 5'3". I'm not bad looking, but years of depression means my appearance is very neglected and will probably never have a partner. I have a bigger than average height muscular body, if that counts for anything. Probably not. I'd be much happier if women were just more sensitive regarding their height preferences, I have little problem with the preferences themselves--just don't make me have to listen to it. Of course I'm sensitive to it!; try going through your life alone. I'm also tired of hearing women complain "oh my boyfriend is going to be away for 2 weeks, I'm so lonely!". I can feel sympathetic for them, but they are usually not sympathetic for me.
In the end, I don't want to be with someone who doesn't love me in that way and I don't think they should ask that of me. But, I'd like it if women would respect peoples sensitivities, which looks unlikely. I don't think it's right to make anyone of any physical characteristic feel bad about themselves, intentionally or unintentionally. It seems it's excusable when it comes to male height. Women can show off their shallowness and it fully acceptable amongst peers. With men, if they were to speak that way of a woman, immediately they get isolated. Considered insensitive pricks. And so they should.
#9 Guest_MP1966_*
Posted 17 May 2006 - 03:21 PM
Ok, I have to chime in on this one...
First, let me say that I'm a 5'7" man who is 39 years old. I have experienced the poor self-esteem,depression and many of the same types of rejection that you have. So I can relate to everything you have expressed. We DIDN'T CHOOSE to be short, that's just the way it is. Life certainly isn't fair, but then again there are lots of things in life that aren't fair...Why do innocent children get cancer or suffer from abuse? and on and on I could go...
My point is this: feeling sorry for yourself will get you nowhere. Been there, done that.....doesn't work. Focus on the things you CAN do something about. For example:
* I CAN work out and make the body I have look better (A big self confidence booster!)
* I CAN make efforts to have a clean and white smile (always an asset!)
* I CAN seek out medical help for the things about my appearance that I want to improve. (If it makes you feel better about yourself, then it may be a worthwhile investment in yourself)
* I CAN dress in a way that looks good and doesn't make me look shorter.
* I CAN have an attitude that I am a worthwhile person that has something to offer to someone else.
I've been doing ALOT of reading on the subject of dating attraction lately. One point that is driven home time and time again is this: WOMEN HATE INSECURE MEN!!! Confidence is key. Put another way, if you aren't confident in you, then no one else will be confident in you either. I don't agree with everything they say but, head on over to www.askmen.com and read some of the material they have on dating and confidence. There may be some things that may be helpfull. And finally, don't give up hope. I'm 5'7" and I'm married. I've seen lots of men shorter than me that had wedding rings on.
Best wishes,
MP1966
First, let me say that I'm a 5'7" man who is 39 years old. I have experienced the poor self-esteem,depression and many of the same types of rejection that you have. So I can relate to everything you have expressed. We DIDN'T CHOOSE to be short, that's just the way it is. Life certainly isn't fair, but then again there are lots of things in life that aren't fair...Why do innocent children get cancer or suffer from abuse? and on and on I could go...
My point is this: feeling sorry for yourself will get you nowhere. Been there, done that.....doesn't work. Focus on the things you CAN do something about. For example:
* I CAN work out and make the body I have look better (A big self confidence booster!)
* I CAN make efforts to have a clean and white smile (always an asset!)
* I CAN seek out medical help for the things about my appearance that I want to improve. (If it makes you feel better about yourself, then it may be a worthwhile investment in yourself)
* I CAN dress in a way that looks good and doesn't make me look shorter.
* I CAN have an attitude that I am a worthwhile person that has something to offer to someone else.
I've been doing ALOT of reading on the subject of dating attraction lately. One point that is driven home time and time again is this: WOMEN HATE INSECURE MEN!!! Confidence is key. Put another way, if you aren't confident in you, then no one else will be confident in you either. I don't agree with everything they say but, head on over to www.askmen.com and read some of the material they have on dating and confidence. There may be some things that may be helpfull. And finally, don't give up hope. I'm 5'7" and I'm married. I've seen lots of men shorter than me that had wedding rings on.
Best wishes,
MP1966
#10 Guest_mystery_knight_*
Posted 21 November 2006 - 07:08 AM
Hello my fellow short men, lol
How are we tonight, i pasted by the site by just pure curiosity about whats going on with "us". First of i see so far i'm the shortest guy here, i'm only 5'1 at 110 lbs, at the age of 22, so what...Lol its no biggy, the only thing a short man needs to do to get a women attracted to him is to have confidence, approach strange women you never met practice this and you will soon be come competent about reaching strangers, competence gives you confidence, regarless of the out come i.E. Rejection....
Because the guy who gets rejected the most in the day is the guy to receives the most numbers in the end, if you just depend on looking at women from your work place or within your social circle your just loosing out on so many opertunities, be proud of yourself, not your physical apperance completely.
Come on guys aren't supposed to be beautiful or don't understand how to talk to a lady cuz they depend on their apperance, just be well groomed, women want a man that knows what he wants and knows that he can get it, where not cave men, where the largest man is the greatest hunter no where far more of a complex creature, we only advance over every other species in this world because of our brain, and to show a women that your a great hunter in this day and age is to use your brain, when you come to her don't say " hi my names john would you like to go out sometime"
Please...Lol observe her, see something unique about her, then approach and build a conversation from that, here your creating mystery, she wont have any idea how a short man can have so much (beautiful women are intemidating and not many guys talk to them cuz their to shy), so she'll feel in most cases confused on how you have such an ego with your stature she'll start asking the questions....Boom....
You move from their to set a date up cause your too "busy" (make youself look important) and ask her if theirs a number you could reach her at... Get it boys....Yea a career is great, i finished college 2 years ago and landed an ok job, but improving myself, makeing myself good at everything i want to be good at creates confidence and this is what women truly love and what they have all told me in the past....
Good luck
How are we tonight, i pasted by the site by just pure curiosity about whats going on with "us". First of i see so far i'm the shortest guy here, i'm only 5'1 at 110 lbs, at the age of 22, so what...Lol its no biggy, the only thing a short man needs to do to get a women attracted to him is to have confidence, approach strange women you never met practice this and you will soon be come competent about reaching strangers, competence gives you confidence, regarless of the out come i.E. Rejection....
Because the guy who gets rejected the most in the day is the guy to receives the most numbers in the end, if you just depend on looking at women from your work place or within your social circle your just loosing out on so many opertunities, be proud of yourself, not your physical apperance completely.
Come on guys aren't supposed to be beautiful or don't understand how to talk to a lady cuz they depend on their apperance, just be well groomed, women want a man that knows what he wants and knows that he can get it, where not cave men, where the largest man is the greatest hunter no where far more of a complex creature, we only advance over every other species in this world because of our brain, and to show a women that your a great hunter in this day and age is to use your brain, when you come to her don't say " hi my names john would you like to go out sometime"
Please...Lol observe her, see something unique about her, then approach and build a conversation from that, here your creating mystery, she wont have any idea how a short man can have so much (beautiful women are intemidating and not many guys talk to them cuz their to shy), so she'll feel in most cases confused on how you have such an ego with your stature she'll start asking the questions....Boom....
You move from their to set a date up cause your too "busy" (make youself look important) and ask her if theirs a number you could reach her at... Get it boys....Yea a career is great, i finished college 2 years ago and landed an ok job, but improving myself, makeing myself good at everything i want to be good at creates confidence and this is what women truly love and what they have all told me in the past....
Good luck